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Poster: turnphilup Date: Nov 14, 2012 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

"(with a nice nod by Bob to Cleveland girls that is clearly appreciated by the crowd)"

If my ears are deceiving me, which is quite possible, Bob calls out to New York City girls at about the 6:45 mark of Minglewood. Think Bob forgot what town he was in. Thanks for the Phil alert. Not a year I got to for him, but it's good to just poke around sometimes. Peace.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 14, 2012 6:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

That's later, when it's "T for New York City." (He's dyslexic, after all!) Cleveland girls go with the extra shots of whiskey.

Actually I think it's usually T for either San Francisco or NYC, I guess cuz they scan the same, and then "girls around here" are wherever he is. There's a show where he says "and it's T right here wherever we are" ... it's at Merriweather Post, which is kind of in between DC and Baltimore.

I'm sure you're right that '81 isn't generally the strongest Phil year, but IMO he's on for this one -- and it's picking him up, too, which AUDs often don't. Lots of AUDs from that time, in comparison to SBDs, I think. (Maybe not true, but just my hunch.)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 14, 2012 11:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Bob often had trouble getting those line right. At some point, he dropped the "New York City" for shows in other places. He kept on saying "Cleveland" even when the played the Coliseum -- which is pretty far from the city, actually. I recall in one of the Sept 1990 shows he mistakenly said "Philly fillies" before, without missing a beat, correcting himself. Philly was the next stop on the tour.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Nov 14, 2012 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

I was listening to a 1978 UCLA Pauley Pavilion (Westwood CA) show from 1978 and Bob inserts "and it's T for Studio City," which I found pretty funny as it is a good distance from Westwood. Maybe their hotel was in Studio City ...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 14, 2012 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

I have to politely disagree with you there! What else would he say? "Richfield girls"? All five of them would be working the concessions and wouldn't hear him. What else is around the Coliseum? North Royalton girls? Those Hinckley buzzards start lookin good?

Cleveland is the correct reference. Although he could have said "T for Cleveland-Akron," which would have the right meter ...

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 15, 2012 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

I would have given anything to hear Bob sing, "Them North Royalton fillies start lookin' good!" or "T in Akron/Canton."

Which makes me wonder: Did they play Minglewood at the Rubber Bowl, and if so, what did he say?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 14, 2012 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

"Nice" nod to Cleveland girls? I most politely disagree.

I've always thought this line to be overtly sexist.

Literal: "A couple more shots of whiskey, those Cleveland girls (also can insert "filly" here - thanks for the spelling correction...I was aware he is referring to a female horse, yet more fuel for the fire) start lookin' good"

TRANSLATION: "After I've gotten shitfaced, these horse-faced broads from Cleveland actually don't look so much like a foot and I'd considered having sexual relations with them"

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2012-11-14 17:49:36

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 14, 2012 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Oh no. I'm going to be out-feministed by a chair basher!

OK, technically, you have a point. Mr. Lion's Den is not really on the list of Admirable GD Characters. (Which would be a short list, I suspect.) But I prefer to think of the subtext as, "I'm a no-good devil of a cheatin', jail-breakin' womanizer, who was thinkin' about cards and horses, but now that I've had a few shots of whiskey here in [insert name of cow town], another form of entertainment comes to mind."

Or, actually: "I, Bob, am singing this song, and here comes a place where I can insert name of city."

OK, not particularly politically correct, but at least we can all be happy that Bob doesn't try to sing a Sensitive New Age Man kind of song. Now that would be scary.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 14, 2012 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Closest approximation to Sensitive Man song: Cassidy.

but you're right, if you shout out the city name, you can rouse a cheer every time...

I think the SDH interpretation hits the mark. In the mis-heard lyrics category: "those filly girls start lookin' good".

But in general, our jailbird is just a horn-dog. From alternate lyrics:
"If you're ever in Memphis, better stop by Minglewood
Well take a walk down town, the women sure look good"

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 14, 2012 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Looks Like Rain?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 14, 2012 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

I'm not sure using the sound of screeching made by humping alley cats qualifies this tune as "sensitive". Lame songwriting on a monumental scale maybe, but not sensitve. IMHO anyway.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2012-11-14 17:59:47

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 14, 2012 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Ah, but the key word was "try." TRY to sing a Sensitive New Age Man song. And I'm afraid LLR may have actually have been a "try." And so are his little improvised raps after it. There may even be more tries if someone combed through Solo Bob stuff ... although that might make the intrepid comber come to a true appreciation of the brilliance of sticking with Hell in a Bucket.

I think the most Sensitive Guy Tries actually may have come from Brent. But I seriously cannot get through his songs to check that.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 14, 2012 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

It was because he couldn't play St. Stephen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oBwGzGlTlY&;feature=related

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 15, 2012 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Seriously funny thread.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Nov 14, 2012 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

or his lines in Man Smart, Woman Smarter

"It ain't me, but the people who say
That the men are leading the women astray
But I say that the women today
Are smarter than the men in every way"

TRANLATION: "I'm kissing ass so I can get laid more often" LOL

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 14, 2012 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

real translation: women are manipulative and are really the ones in control and they have men on a string.This song was never meant to be the way so many people especially women take it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 14, 2012 2:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

Seems like we may have touched upon that before...

http://archive.org/post/224886/help-for-cosmic-charlie-duprees-project

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 14, 2012 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wonderful Ohio '81 (and Phil Alert)

I know. That tends to happen a lot around here haha